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February 3rd, 2006 (08:26 am)

A few thoughts on the Danish cartoon controversy currently pissing off Muslims worldwide:


  • They're not funny. I don't mean from a religious or so-called "P.C." point-of-view. The cartoons are simply not funny. They suffer from the same problems afflicting American mainstream cartoons: cheap gags, oversimplified caricatures of ethnic stereotypes, no evidence of any real knowledge of the subject, and just plain stupidity. Why can't editors hire cartoonists who demonstrate some intellectual depth or emotional maturity? Is Tom Toles the only one?
  • It would never occur to me to lampoon Islam or Muhammad, because it's not my religion, man. Despite being an atheist and raised non-religiously by a secular humanist, I still identify as a cultural Christian, much in the way friends of mine identify as cultural Jews. My grandparents and many other well-meaning true believers wasted a lot of time trying to convert me in my youth, including a trip to a Southern Baptist bible camp (which almost got me), and the town I grew up in is a Catholic-dominant town. For the most part, I like the religion, as religions go, and respect most of its permutations (still not sure about the snake-handlers.) And I like Jesus Christ himself: reformer, radical, populist, challenger of the Roman empire, gadfly of the religious establishment of his day, advocate for the poor, the afflicted and the socially spat-on, author of the Golden Rule (which Kant and Sartre wound up reaffirming in their own ethical investigations), he's all right. So, yes, given all that, I'd happily lampoon the guy and his certainly his followers.
  • That said, no one is above criticism. No one. Poor Salman Rushdie has been saying this for years: grow up, get a thicker skin, play with the big kids, or face arrested theological development and gradual marginalization. I agree with Shannon that Muslims have a right to be outraged and feel insulted by yet more rude treatment from clueless Westerners. With a ban on any representation of Muhamad, good or bad, and a history of controversy over art in general as potential blasphemy, iconography is obviously a sensitive subject in Islam. However, lacking much evidence outside a few moderate Muslim thinkers that the Muslim world as whole is willing to engage in necessary constructive self-criticism, the reaction to the Danish cartoons seems out of proportion.
  • Not that emotional immaturity and lack of self-criticism are features restricted to Muslims. Witness any given press conference with or without the President; or sticking within this subject, the decision by European papers to republish the offending cartoons across the continent in a demonstration for "free speech" and "freedom of the press." Sure, yell fire in a crowded theater. Have at it. Schmucks.


Edited to include link to cartoons themselves. Oops.
Edited again to correct the reference to the cartoons as "Danish," not "Dutch." Double oops and an a-doy.

Comments

Posted by: Shannon Wheeler ([info]tmcm)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)

It's weird that it's 'freedom of speech' that's being defended.

It's too bad that the cartoons weren't just ignored. The whole thing would have come and gone.

It also seems to be a big part of the east/west idiological difference. The muslims are asking for respect, and the west says no. Obviously it's more complicated than that, but that's part of it.

Posted by: mooreroom ([info]nevikmoore)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 07:41 pm (UTC)
banana

I agree. The "freedom of speech/press" ruse obfuscates responsibility for needlessly flaming a fire that is already out of control. The publishing of the cartoons seems more like a taunt, a provocation. "Oh, you don't like it? Well, here's some more, raghead!"

By the same token, asking for responsible editorial decision-making is far different from the position taken by one commentator: "We're at war. And sometimes war demands censorship." Er, no. War demands increased vigilance by the people and the press as watchdogs of official disinformation misleads the public through fear and intimidation. As we well know.

The religious tensions between Jews, Christians and Muslims--as well as europeans, arabs and semites--are constantly reinforced by mutual disrespect. Americans lose their minds seeing Iranian students burning flags. Israelis quite rightly find offense in Hamas' call to eliminate Israel and the teaching of anti-jewish stereotypes and holocaust denial in Palestinian schools. Arabs and Palestinians are constantly refered to as dogs, animals, apes and other less than human creatures, underscoring policies and military campaigns that have denied their humanity. Ultimately it's this stupid eye-for-an-eye, us-vs.-them mentality that dehumanizes us all, brings us no farther along than our territorial pissing ancestors who just came down from the tree.

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC)

I don't know how people are equating 'apology for being offensive to a group of people we're trying to get along with' and 'censorship.' Seems like a leap in logic.

Posted by: mooreroom ([info]nevikmoore)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 07:54 pm (UTC)
banana

The commentator I referred to was using censorship either sloppily--that is, he is really trying to say editors should use more discretion in publishing materials treating Islamic religious matters--or specifically, the endorsement of using government power to officially prevent material that does not, in the government's view, contribute positively to the war effort, in the war this commentator envisions.

I think an apology is fine. There is, of course, the "chilling effect" that can prevent editors from publishing materials on any Islamic issue, regardless of merit. People can over-react with "zero tolerance" policies quite quickly.

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 6th, 2006 10:24 am (UTC)
Why the cartoons weren't ignored

The cartoons were mostly ignored for a long time. More or less the time it took for radical muslims in Denmark to try taking the newspaper to court, and be summarily dismissed by the public prosecutor because the cartoons were obviously within the limits (yes, we do have limits!) of Danish law.

Not satisfied with this, these imams, instead of going the long hard democratic process way of changing laws, took the quick and dirty road to the middle east, not just bringing along the cartoons from the newspaper, but spicing them up with some far worse cartoons they had received - probably from stupid neonazis. The purpose of this jouney was obviously to stir up things by inventing an image of Denmark being a highly islamophobic place, although they deny this today (of course.) Boy did this ever backfire!

-Lasse Hillerøe Petersen (lhpblog.blogspot.com)

Posted by: librarygeek ([info]shandralyn)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)
Just a clarification
bookworm

from a Jew... Jesus did not write the golden rule - it was a Jewish teaching especially popular with the Pharisees of his day. :) Part of the reason I found myself drawn to Judaism is that all of the things attributed to Jesus that I resonated with were actually Jewish teachings. (He was a rabbi, after all.)

Posted by: You Never Know When You Might Need A Zero ([info]ms_xeno)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 06:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Just a clarification

[applause]

I think every Muslim should read the *Satanic Verses* just so they can feel embarassed over such a mediocre piece of literature inspiring such ire from their less tolerant fringe. What can I say ? I don't digest magical realism well, especially when a single dose of it weighs more than the combined weight of our three cats.

Hell. Didn't the Catholic church prevent offending episodes of South Park and The Simpsons from being re-run ? I think the Scientologists have managed it a time or two as well.

I don't suppose you'd ever find a way to work your near-conversion into a comic story. Think of the elaborate animal metaphors you could use, if say, somebody tried it on da' Pig...

Posted by: mooreroom ([info]nevikmoore)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 07:24 pm (UTC)
Re: Just a clarification

Jesus was Jew and a rabbi. PBS had an interesting documentary on how christianity emerged from dissenting Jewish groups in the wake of the rabbi's state-sanctioned murder, and the changing use of baptism as a means of initiating individuals into the group.

And, yeah, I hesitated on the word "author," given that such ideas don't come from nowhere. I use the word in much the same spirit as one uses "Homer" as an author of The Iliad and The Odyssey. :-)

Posted by: librarygeek ([info]shandralyn)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 09:19 pm (UTC)
no worries
geek

I just thought I'd put that out there for the unaware, and cause it's one of my favorite Jewish teachings. I find it most amusing/scary to think that Jesus, as a Jew, was not out to start a new religion at all, and wasn't interested in non-Jewish people at all. But, people managed somehow to run with it...

Posted by: You Never Know When You Might Need A Zero ([info]ms_xeno)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 11:28 pm (UTC)
Re: no worries

Nonono... remember the Mad Magazine Primer of Religion. It's the JEWS who started running... for over 2,000 years...

[roll on snaredrum]

Posted by: librarygeek ([info]shandralyn)
Posted at: February 3rd, 2006 11:33 pm (UTC)
Re: no worries

Ba-dum-bump ching. ;)

Posted by: elaynetoo ([info]elaynetoo)
Posted at: February 4th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)

It's DANISH cartoon controversy, Kevin. The Dutch controversy is the bloggers accepting all-expenses-paid trips to Amsterdam in a quid pro quo to allow month-long premium advertising for Dutch tourism on their blogs.

Posted by: mooreroom ([info]nevikmoore)
Posted at: February 6th, 2006 04:59 am (UTC)

That would be a nice deal. :-)

Thanks for the correction. Duly noted and done.

Posted by: mooreroom ([info]nevikmoore)
Posted at: February 6th, 2006 05:03 am (UTC)

Oh, and: Does your blog have a livejournal feed?

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: February 6th, 2006 10:06 am (UTC)
Glad you at least had a look at the cartoons

I am glad you at least looked at the cartoons to form an opinion. However, you do not belong the intended audience - Danish readers of Jyllands-Posten - so perhaps it could be a case of missing out on intricacies of Danish humor. I will happily admit that these are not the best cartoons ever, but they really are not that bad. If you look at them in a context where you expect to find satire on Muhammed, you *will* be puzzled, as most of them are either a critique of the newpaper commisioning the cartoon, or a satire on the situation the cartoonist found himself in, divided between wanting to speak freely, retain safety, and not wanting to insult unnecessarily. Where there is punching against muslims, it is directed at their fundamentalist fraction.

I have written my interpretations from a Danish viewpoint, they can be seen at lhpblog.blogspot.com

-Lasse Hillerøe Petersen

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